a lot of green arrows in the energy space. nat gas closed slightly lower. >> ignite something larger, that's the bigger question we face. that's what we wonder about. the other thing that's so different this time around is the role of egypt is completely different because the arab spring has happened. we used to kind of know where -- we knew exactly where hose any mubarak stood. >> are they a mediator? an instigator? >> i don't think they know. >> they're trying to figure out their role. i'm not trying to minimize what's going on but i think traders are using this as an excuse to bid oil prices higher. we're not at a point we're seeing evidence that you can see a cut-off in oil supplies, especially for new york oil. >> that's ultimately the question. will there be a disruption? what series of events would occur to stop the flow of oil? >> suez canal, wherever it is, we're not there yet but trading it up just in case -- >> it ignites something wider. >> our own oil market in new york trades more on our economic fundamentals and